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Ok, the years have passed and the statutes of limitations have expired. Can anyone shed some light on these infamous FUMA rumors:

1) A whole platoon getting kicked out in 1988 for allegedly dabbling in...mind altering substances?

2) A cadet officer allegedly stabbing the portrait of Dr. Snead in Hatcher Hall after it 'came to life'?

3) Major Spencer bending spoons with his mind?

4) a cadet knocking out Major Straughan for waking him up?

5) the truth about the tunnels?

There are more, but many are obscene and would probably result in lawsuits if posted here. Shame, many were quite funny.

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Oh, and those tunnels ya'll are talking about do exist. There used to be a big gate in front of them at the lockers in the Jr. School gym's locker room. I think that gym is either gone now or has been extensively renovated. Good thing as I'm sure the Jr. School cadets got tired of all the asbestos on the pipes.

I believe the entrance got walled up. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

The tunnel is still there, as is the old Jr. school locker room under the gym. The entrance to the tunnel is gated off, but a view down the tunnel is still available.

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There was also a rumor of a disused bowling alley.

The bowling alley was under the faculty apts that used to be attached to the Jr. school gym. The balcony, to the apt and also where the barber shop use to be located, was the roof to the bowling alley. It was one lane and had to be manually set.

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Unless another portrait has been stabbed, that portrait had that stab mark in it in 1976. The rumor at the time was that a cadet stabbed it when he thought it moved. Easy to believe as all those portraits were painted such that the eyes always seemed to follow you no matter where you were in the room.

I was there when the portrait was stabbed. The Duty NCO must have done that since they spent the night in the Guard Room back then in case an emergency call came in. A big hullaballoo following that one. There were stories of ghosts in Hatcher Hall and one night I was in the Guard Room and at 2am something or rather someone banged on my door several times. Almost scared the pee out of me but I did yank the door open to see the front door of Hatcher Hall closing so I believed it was the Duty Officer messing with me.

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Anybody remember the guy that made cyanide in the chem lab and killed himself? The rumor about that I remember was that the guy diluted it and was really trying to get high. I was in Jr. School at the time and it was an Upper School cadet.

I never did hear a satisfactory explanation over that one. It was hushed up rather quickly, or that was what I remember.

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Oh, and those tunnels ya'll are talking about do exist. There used to be a big gate in front of them at the lockers in the Jr. School gym's locker room. I think that gym is either gone now or has been extensively renovated. Good thing as I'm sure the Jr. School cadets got tired of all the asbestos on the pipes.

I believe the entrance got walled up. Someone correct me if I am wrong. There was also a rumour of a disused bowling alley.

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Anybody remember the guy who went AWOL and got chased by a bull in some farmer's field. That one's not a rumor though I did hear he got chased back onto the campus property line.

I had heard about that but for the life of me I can't remember his name. :P

Class of 1979.

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Ah, the good old days. Back when we didn't know what gangs were...

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OK... pulled out the 88 yearbook... found the "we love FUMA" photo. LOL. Also looked at the platoon pictures and realized why I did not remember them as Bravo Co. 3rd platoon cadets... they weren't... they were on 2nd platoon... myster solved. :D

I thought those guys were first platoon, Bravo. I forgot completely about the "we love FUMA" photo. LOL. There was a guy in Echo (I think the same year) that flashed gang signs for his senior picture. He was from L.A. and NOBODY in central Virginia had any idea what a gang sign was. He was very proud of himself.

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Hey All:

Due to Iconoclastic monolithic disturbances, I can no longer receive e-mails at my previous address. If you sent me something in the last two weeks, please try again:

jwaters@miller-motte.edu

Jess "La Nez" Waters

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ahh yes

now i remember...tyler...

and Jesse I shot you a little note the other day. by all means hit me with an e-mail. i read your post from when you found this forum and could literally HEAR YOUR VOICE. kinda weird.

umm yeah, '88 & '89 might have been a bit smaller if someone had rolled. not that i endorse illicit drug use, but...

i have confirmed that i am headed down for alumni day so please everyone: let us get it together and chill.

ANYONE remember the party that i threw at the Key Bridge Marriot in D.C. one weekend went i went on leave all by myself (a big no-no)? i can barely remember it myself.

Having so much fun it should probably be illegal...and most likely is.

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Anyone seen/heard from/about Skee Chinn? Matt? Taxi?

Jess

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Matty,

Taxi here. i am following your posts. and i just shot you an e-mail. hit me up brother at john@taxilaw.com.

yeah...those were some times. T.B. though...can't put the initals with the name.

any idea what happened to joe prescott or jay wilson?

let me know. good to see your vioce.

taxi

Having so much fun it should probably be illegal...and most likely is.

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Anybody remember the guy that made cyanide in the chem lab and killed himself? The rumor about that I remember was that the guy diluted it and was really trying to get high.

That was Corbin - he committed suicide. As I recall the year book had a "dedication" to him.

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I remember a certain cadet procuring a bottle of wine from the IGA and getting very sick off it the night before graduation day, 1986. Nurse Bell was actually impressed by my projectile vomitting. (no, I didn't swipe the booze. I merely sampled it. The light-fingered cadet was expelled the next year for a non-related incident)

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Bravo 2nd was my platoon and I was their squad leader, only one(Ed Sholte) was expelled for refusing a urine test. The cadet that stabbed the portrait was Gary Munn 87 who was a platoon leader 2nd bravo while on guard duty, Major Spencer did all types of tricks during sociology class but I dont remember the spoons

Unless another portrait has been stabbed, that portrait had that stab mark in it in 1976. The rumor at the time was that a cadet stabbed it when he thought it moved. Easy to believe as all those portraits were painted such that the eyes always seemed to follow you no matter where you were in the room.

Anybody remember the guy that made cyanide in the chem lab and killed himself? The rumor about that I remember was that the guy diluted it and was really trying to get high. I was in Jr. School at the time and it was an Upper School cadet.

Oh, and those tunnels ya'll are talking about do exist. There used to be a big gate in front of them at the lockers in the Jr. School gym's locker room. I think that gym is either gone now or has been extensively renovated. Good thing as I'm sure the Jr. School cadets got tired of all the asbestos on the pipes.

Anybody remember the guy who went AWOL and got chased by a bull in some farmer's field. That one's not a rumor though I did hear he got chased back onto the campus property line. :D

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I'll confess that my interactions were limited with Wood. Unfortunately, the ones I had were always him scowling at me and threatening to 'stick' me. Jarrett was pretty laid back and would hang out with the group I ran with, playing guitar and always asking when the Dokken tabs were coming in the mail (sheet music for the non-music types). I almost forgot Jarrett was ever our CO.

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Dave wood became CO when JArett voluntarily stepped down from the post because he got stuck for having civlian clothes in his footlocker (something like 20 demerits). He didnt like the job I dont think.. ANd we were a bunch of crazies early on in the year when larder, weneta and pat hoffman were our squad leaders.

Wood was an easy going CO.. THey both were really!!

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Oh... yes... MR. David Wood. He was a real stickler when he was our Platoon SGT, but from what I remember he was a totally different person the next year. Much easier to talk and hang out with. I do remember him frequently threatening to “stick” the whole platoon. He had a tough group of guys to try and lead. And Bronson sure didn’t help him since he was buddy buddy with some of the worst offenders.

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The little guy who ended up CC for Bravo in '87. Was PltSgt for 3rd Bravo in '86. Was rumored that Tom Bronson had to come back for graduation day in '87 to keep him from getting killed. Of course, that's just another rumor. But, yeah, that guy. Was never laid back around me. Always seems to have an anxiety issue that manifested its' self through inappropriate displays of authority. Threatened to stick our entire platoon once, though I can't remember what for (Mikey or Todd, do y'all remember this?). There may have been more than one Woods or it's even possible he acted human towards other cadets. Though, I doubt that last part.

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Are you sure it was Dave Wood? He was a pretty laid back guy whom I never remember writing anyone up.

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I thought Tavares got kicked out when he (allegedly) tried to OD on aspirin (might have been Tylenol). Hicks got the boot when his Maalox bottle was found full of pills (I had the displeasure of being personally picked to participate in that search). From what I remember Chinn tried to smoke some resin during CQ.

Remember Woods, but never liked him. Most interaction I had with him was trying to figure out how to brain him with a shoe and get away with it after he called me stupid. I figure he's parking cars somewhere today, what with his charming personality.

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OK, now I know my guess on the Alumni Central thread was correct. How are you Frank? Shoot me an email when you get the chance. I would love to hear how you are doing.

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Hey Bravo 1st platoon section here
i would have guessed that tavares, hicks, Byron "skee" chinn and ford were involved in that whole "getting kicked out" the year after I left.
and the guy who graduated with me, trey hein.
There was some serious dysfucntion going on in that company. Made for some serious comedy

we called our company commander "MOM". that was WOOD DR. at least phil ford did.

"Sir, can I look straight too."

anyways, later

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Rumor has it that Capt. Stephen "Strangers In The Night" C. Smith was sent to prison. My source was very reliable , but would not elaborate.

Your source was incorrect. He has passed. As for "happening to a better guy". VERY POOR choice of words.

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Tunnels

I just graduated and i know for a fact the tunnels exist...my friends and i spent quite the time down there...its a little creapy and they are only about 5 feet tall so the hurt your back if your there too long. they run from the middle school gym to the room under what is now friskis room on the back side of hatcher...from there they can either go down to the boiler/laundry room, or up under the chappel to snead then it turns into the snead basement, then they run from under bravo over to the comandants then on to memorial...best way to get around after taps without getting caught...did it many a nights

I was also on bravo 3rd for three years and if your looking for the "best" platoon in the core thats it...never a dull moment, i saw quite a few kicked out in my day with questionable circumstances

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Bravo 2nd was my platoon and I was their squad leader, only one(Ed Sholte) was expelled for refusing a urine test. The cadet that stabbed the portrait was Gary Munn 87 who was a platoon leader 2nd bravo while on guard duty, Major Spencer did all types of tricks during sociology class but I dont remember the spoons

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This was a "Junior School" faculty member that I am speaking about. It happened during the late 70's or maybe as recent as the early 80's.

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When ants look like people ,you are too late.

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The only alumnus I can postively say is in the pokey is Levin. A certain company commander from my graduate year lived upstairs from me a East Carolina and reportedly had a little legal problem involving some...mind altering substances. All I know is one day he was there, the next day he was gone and his roommate would not say anything about where he went. Next thing I heard was he was...geez, it's tough to word stuff without it being possibly libel. Anyways, I haven't heard anything since 1990.

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Rumor has it that Capt. Stephen "Strangers In The Night" C. Smith was sent to prison. My source was very reliable , but would not elaborate. Couldn't have happened to a better guy. Anyone have details? Email me.

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let's not forget the '88 class historian (3rd highest gpa) took his sr. photo in a t-shirt with the words "body by jake" or something like that...only he wrote the words on his t-shirt backwards thinking the camera would reverse the image. So the real photo had the words backwards in the yearbook. lol Something to be said about him being 3rd in our class and us being ranked below him.

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Dora Bounds had to do quite a bit of tweaking with the yearbook that year. Wasn't that the year the entire front row of the prep football team held their hands in a kind of stupid position that for---whatever the reason---was all the rage in 87-88? (No it wasn't the middle finger, it was this really stupid game of holding your thumb and index finger in a circle and saying "MADE YOU LOOK"). Anyways---I think they had to cut hat picture off at the knees. A couple of guys in Band company tried to be clever and wrote "I Phelta Thi" on their senior casual picture and I know that also got creatively edited out. Wasn't 1988 the year a rather large fellow (I mean HUGE) who was a platoon leader in Charlie Company decided to go take a dunk in the fountain the night before graduation and got to spend his last night on ED and graduate a private? Poor guy didn't listen to Col. Pulliam's final night "Don't do anything that would be detrimental to your final few days at FUMA" speech. 1988---You guys were troublemakers! Even though that was my junior year it was easily my happiest at FUMA---a truly great year. Probably had something to do with finally beating Woodberry--and then in the Spring Fleenor and his posse started "the streak" of track championships.

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OK... pulled out the 88 yearbook... found the "we love FUMA" photo. LOL. Also looked at the platoon pictures and realized why I did not remember them as Bravo Co. 3rd platoon cadets... they weren't... they were on 2nd platoon... myster solved. :D

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Only it was caught by instructors who put the yearbook together. So they put white-out on the photo and inked in the words "we love FUMA". Ha...thy were pissed. I laughed my a&& off.

Now that is classic.

Class of 95'

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Just look for their sr. barracks photo. They were the ones who posed for a photo wearing t-shirts that spelled "we love ganja" (sp).

Only it was caught by instructors who put the yearbook together. So they put white-out on the photo and inked in the words "we love FUMA". Ha...thy were pissed. I laughed my a&& off.

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OK...got the names... or at least a couple... totaly forgat about that. Was that 88?... Now I'm going to have to go in my closet and pull out the old year books!

Mike Fuller
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Mike...Yes. It took me a minute or two, but I do recall the three in "B". I'll just give the first few letters, I would hate to slander and be wrong. They were Sholt..., Gru.. and Presc... I know that was thinly disguised, but if you were not there I am sure you could not finish the names. Sad really, Nark and I went through Jr. School with them. Started in the 7th grade. You spend six years at the academy and they screw-up with two weeks to go!!??? If they had never had it on campus they would have graduated. It was as simple as that...oh well.

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I'll still never forget the time Peters called the hymen "the cherry". It was the only time I ever saw Straughan speechless.

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right on BravoCo. I remember that... you had to at least fold back your blanket and sheets when he was on duty... very odd if you ask me...

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As for Major Straughan getting punched, the story I heard was he was shining the light in a cadet's face after taps (as he often did) and the guy laid him flat.

What was his obsession with making sure you were under your sheets/blanket?

Class of 95'

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I thought it was a platoon in Echo. Seemed like it happened, but I used to 'really' enjoy my weekend leaves, so who's to say? Mike is right, almost: one guy was tossed from 3rd platoon Bravo, a buddy of mine from Charlotte. He had some low grade amphetamines kept in a Maalox bottle. Stupid guy must have forgotten Maalox is a liquid ( I remember this because I was his squad corporal and was ordered to assist with the shake down). You remember the guy? The Deadhead wannabe?

As for Major Straughan getting punched, the story I heard was he was shining the light in a cadet's face after taps (as he often did) and the guy laid him flat.

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1988 several cadets were kicked out one to two weeks before graduation. I believe there were five and most had been there 5-6 years. Three were in "B" company on the 3rd floor. I was in Jr. School with them. I think they brought the substance back from Sr./PG leave.

Not sure if this is true, but my memory is not that good. But if this was during the 87-88 school year, I was the platoon Sgt for bravo company 3rd platoon (at least up to the last few weeks) and do not remember "several cadets" being kicked out. I do remember a "shake down", but was not involved in any meeting or remember anyone being dismissed. And never heard about the whole platoon being dismissed.
Sam - any idea where you heard this?
Nark/oceanrunner – do you know who they were? Would sure like to remember this!

I remember during my freshman and Sophomore years (when guard duty was held in Hatcher Hall) hearing rumors about an officer that was on duty who was doing his nightly rounds when he saw the portrait of Dr. Snead start talking (or something like that) and he cut the portrait with his saber, but I also remember looking at the portrait and do not remember seeing any signs of it being cut. But I did everything I could (including paying off other NCOs) to take my guard duty...

If my bad memory is not as bad as I think it is... I also heard that Major Spencer could "float" down the alls during CQ, but don't remember the hearing about the bending of spoons.

Did not hear the one about Major Straughan and never saw or knew about any tunnels... wish I had!

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1988 several cadets were kicked out one to two weeks before graduation. I believe there were five and most had been there 5-6 years. Three were in "B" company on the 3rd floor. I was in Jr. School with them. I think they brought the substance back from Sr./PG leave.

The tunnels do exist. The boiler to the academy is behind Hatcher hall, so the pipes would have been laid in tunnels to get from there to the barracks. Lets not forget the tunnel that is plainly visable under the Jr. School gym. The tunnel extends futher than a flashlight can show.

It seems like when I took a look at Dr. Hatcher's painting, I did see a razor cut into the canvas. About the width of a saber, barely visable since it looked like it had been repaired. However, it could have been a brush stroke from the original painter and power of suggestion makes it seem like a cut.

never had Spencer and never heard of a cadet punching out Straughn.

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